12 February, 2008

Sit and cry where the roses grow, you can sit and cry, not a soul will know.

I must amidt I'm a bit of a sally for not knowing much about dat group dat did dat song "Sally" (see sally below), but I guess they have an interesting background. Well, not as interesting as, say, the New Association, but some of the backgroundaction sounds like the saddest thing in the whole wide world.

"With its curious rhythm and strange vocal style, along with the odd lyrics, "Sally" has become a song shrouded in mystery. Various accounts of its meanings include the stages of a mental breakdown, a lesbian love-affair gone awry, a religious experience, a drug influenced haze, or simply a dance tune. Before their deaths neither Spector nor Sanders revealed the true meaning of the song if there even was one. For all rock historians know today, the song could just be a nursery rhyme put to music."

Any of the above meaning are boffo for me.

"What about the songs cryptic interpretation?
"Sally, Go Round the Roses" is a timeless wonder of a song featuring an odd hypnotic rhythm and soft voices seductively rising and falling. The lyrics seem to potray Sally in an alluring bed of roses, catching an eyeful of her lover with another.
Another interpretation of this song is Sally a "closeted" lesbian who sees her "baby" also female with "another girl" which is the "saddest thing in the whole wide world" except perhaps being a lesbian in 1963. The roses "won't tell her secret" Of course her "secret" is her homosexuality and she has no one to confess it to, but the roses where she "can sit and cry, not a soul will know."
"Sally Go Round the Roses" very poignantly describes the way lesbians must have felt back in the early 60's when must of them felt that they had to hide their sexual orientation.
Another interoperation is the following. "Baby" to refer to a guy was typical of lots of girl-group recordings (e.g. "Be My Baby"). Sally had just lost her virginity to the guy and now he's with another girl.
Others think the song is about a religious experience, or possibly a mental breakdown.
It has been said "Sally, Go Round the Roses" was derived from English folk music. Others say it it was Black jump rope or jacks playing rhyme.Information on this page taken from a discussion from rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s
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"Johnnie Louise Richardson remembered Abner Spector (he died of a stroke on October 25, 1988) as an electronics nut. Spector sequestered the girls in the studio on a Friday and didn't allow them to leave until the following week when the recording was completed. Anybody who came in the studio during the enduring week of recording got on the track. Buddy Miles and Artie Butler are remembered as playing on the session. It's rumored Spector had about 20 voices on "Sally," and that the session cost more than $60,000 (unlikely since that was an unheard-of amount of money to spend on a single in 1963).The song itself has a hypnotic feel, a crazy organ part, nursery rhyme-sounding lyrics, a wall of voices, and an undeniable funky beat. All kinds of theories have been tossed around about the song's meaning. Some say it's a religious experience, about a mental breakdown, about a closeted lesbian, etc.... all garbage. The song is simply a skip-rope rhyme said by girls when they jumped rope; some lyrics were added that fit the music and you had a song. With "Sally" it's not the words, it's that incessant beat, screaming organ, and the fading in and out that drives the tune.Johnnie Louise Richardson remembered Abner Spector (he died of a stroke on October 25, 1988) as an electronics nut. Spector sequestered the girls in the studio on a Friday and didn't allow them to leave until the following week when the recording was completed. Anybody who came in the studio during the enduring week of recording got on the track. Buddy Miles and Artie Butler are remembered as playing on the session. It's rumored Spector had about 20 voices on "Sally," and that the session cost more than $60,000 (unlikely since that was an unheard-of amount of money to spend on a single in 1963).The song itself has a hypnotic feel, a crazy organ part, nursery rhyme-sounding lyrics, a wall of voices, and an undeniable funky beat. All kinds of theories have been tossed around about the song's meaning. Some say it's a religious experience, about a mental breakdown, about a closeted lesbian, etc.... all garbage. The song is simply a skip-rope rhyme said by girls when they jumped rope; some lyrics were added that fit the music and you had a song. With "Sally" it's not the words, it's that incessant beat, screaming organ, and the fading in and out that drives the tune."


Both were lynx from the wiki art on Sally



Sally= just don't go downtown !!!!!

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